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im not having a problem sending and receiving messages, well some have been late , but im not so concerned with that at the moment . my problem is making an app worse than than it was and were just supposed to accept it . the latest android update as a whole made my phone take a step back in many ways . i hate the way it notifies you of messages now . you can no longer choose what notifications come across the desktop . its either on or off. and it doesnt even read the message anymore . it just says i have a message , taking up the entire screen practically . it used to scroll at the top of the screen to preview the content of a message . that is just one of the many annoyances with this update .i dont like being forced onto changes that are obviously poorly developed and make the phone worse. i dont like the fact that there is nothing anyone can do to help.

oh really ann? ok well i appreciate the help but every other messaging app lacks the functionality of message plus . which i have mentioned multiple  times . so if you didnt read what ive written then maybe you shouldnt chime in . that's why im asking for specific names of messaging apps. because so far , all 3rd party  messaging apps are not the solution. doesnt it strike  anyone as odd ,why i would have to move to a different app than the one i use for years. if that is the solution , its a very strange one . but i am willing to make the effort but so far every messaging app sucks . im getting so much more irritated with these issues . the only responses are either  factory reset phone , which will do nothing regarding the problems im experiencing ,or start using a new messaging app, to which i have now installed 4 different ones , none of them were suitable and all lacked functionality im used to . those are my choices . awesome .

ok well what messaging app do you use if not message plus . give me a name of one that has all the same features and i will gladly use it . the other verizon messaging program , with the green icon , doesn't work correctly since the update . btw , i only received this update several weeks ago , not a year ago . all of the complaints i have read online are recent ; within a few months . so somehow i doubt it was a year , but i only received it about a week before i started this thread . i have never sent an audio text ,never received an audio text , never heard of anyone sending one or receiving one either . the icon is big and they made voice to text icon tiny to compensate . i use the voice to text when i drive and now find myself having to look for a tiny icon .  anyways if anyone can recommend a messaging app that has the same features as message plus., that would be a step in the right direction . so far ive tried several and they all are missing something important.

i dont care if that feature has been there for awhile . its one of so many annoyances , all of which stem from the upgrade and cannot be fixed by a factory restore. the way notifications apear now - horrible . it used to scroll across the top of the screen and read the text message or email , so i wouldnt have to even check the message . now a giant window covers the screen and simply says "notification "and tells me nothing . and i constantly have to close the window with the word notification on it . also there is a big emoticon right next to the stupid audio text . so now im accidentally sending emoticons to people . and the voice to text triggers in my pocket constantly ,and fills up my phone with recordings. you dont have to hold it for multiple seconds; you simply touch the button and let go of it . ive never heard of anyone sending an audio text . why would they stick that in such a crucial area ? in gmail , i can no longer locate the refresh button . where is it ? also my messages have been coming in with a serious delay . not always just 1 out of 20 or 30 . but atleast once a day ;.i have a list of other gripes  but i guess its pointless. the phone runs hot now and the battery gets drained faster . imagine if you took your car for a service and they put the turn signals under the seat . or put the emergancy brake in the trunk ;. and the car started getting horrible gas mileage and the battery started losing charge . you would just accept it ? i highly doubt that . ill never ever update my phone again for fear of this same thing happening and i want a solution . the phone has had a loss of functionality and its not acceptable . i read forums and many people are unhappy as well. there has to be a way to go back to the old system . if i have to call text support again and nothing gets solved im gonna throw this phone in the trash and say goodbye to verizon.

thanks ,i just might do that . although i was perfectly happy with my phone the way it was. I understand the need for os updates, but not if they make the phone more annoying to use. if you took your car to get serviced and when you picked it up , all the controls and ignition had all been moved under the seat, and it started using way more gas than before or the battery started dying , how would you feel ? just chalk it up to an update and live with it ? sell the car you loved to buy an older used car? that doesnt even make sense .

maybe your not understanding my problem . the issue im having can not be solved by a system restore as far as i know.   the list of issues im experiencing is long . but the biggest issues are that the latest update has changed the functionality of the phone in a very poor way . does a factory restore convert the phone to the state it was in before the update ? because as far as i know, it cant be done . its not a case of just being buggy . the bugs are just the icing on the cake. im talking about the way i interface with the phone . message plus  has been altered in extremely annoying ways . i tried 3rd party messaging apps . havent found any that work properly . the update has altered so many things on my phone ,for the worse, that its driving me nuts . i dont have the time to keep calling tech support . ive called 3x already and no one can do anything . I want my old system back . i want the phone the way it was before the update . doing a factory reset might fix some of the issues like high battery use and other bugs , but im more concerned with the changes that have been made to message plus and the overall functionality of the phone . so a factory reset is not the answer . why would i factory reset ,if it is going to just give me the same issue im having ?

what steps have i gone thru ? well ive tried several 3rs party messaging apps . none of which helped . they all lacked functionality and/or had serious bugs. i have not done a factory reset because i dont see what it would even help . the problems im experiancing all stem from the latest android update . every single day i have more problems with my phone . problems i never had before this update .i have talked to tech support three times and are very friendly but no one can help I don't understand  how  they put out a bad update ,that no one can do anything to resolve problems everything in my phone is buggy now and the batteries whack notifications are bad it the way it works is way is just way worse I would give anything about to go back to the old  system, and I'll never update my phone again ever.  Their so many  little weird problems that I can't even remember them all to tell tech support when i  call them.  I don't see how a factory reset would do any good considering it will just go back to the same system again.  And from what I can see online and many people are having the same problems.  Why can't why go back to my old system in this one is buggy and is not ready.  What good is tech support if they cant help?  There must be a way to go back to my old system prior to the update because it's not acceptable .my phone is not what it was . my user experiences has gone into the  garbage.  So if the only solution is for me to do a factory reset ,just to make me have the same system again am very unhappy and hate my phone.  Can I trade  my phone in for  the same model with the old system on it? that would make me happy . anything short of my old system and i will have to rethink my relationship with verizon .. this has caused me so much frustration im really contemplating alternatives to smart phones . or doing something drastic . maybe a beeper. so noe ne has been able to solve the problem so far . but i apreciate the help ,if you can actually help /

your solution is not the correct answer , but i appreciate taking the time to try to help .what 3rd party messaging app do you recommend ? because ive gone thru several , all with issues . so please recommend something you think will work comparable to message plus

solved the issue ? hardly .. everyday i am finding more issues with this latest update . the 3rd party messaging i had to start using (google messenger ) is a [removal required by the Verizon Wireless Terms of Service] . atleast 3-4 times a day the message window turns blank white , which gives the appearance that i deleted all my messages, and i cannot get back to messages without rebooting the phone . furthermore this phone now is hot all the time and the battery drains is ridiculous fast. the new notification (interupt) function is horrible and was so much better before . my phone which i really liked has now become a place of loathing . verizon tech support seems very friendly and want to help but they do absolutely nothing for any issue im having . what is the point of tech support if they cant do anything . the more i look into this the more i see many people are having the same issues with this update . i want a solution . not time wasting .

yes i have been forced into using a different messaging app, but not happy about it . when will companies learn to respect the end user ,and stop with this "we know better than you" mentality? i was very happy with my phone  and did not need a sudden major change in the way it functions. who thought of such a ridiculous notion to force a send audio for text button , with no way to disable it . a function that sends the message when you touch it and let go . so any accidental touching records and sends an audio text. at the very least ,updates like these should have an option to disable them . It's made my user experience extremely annoying for 5 days now . i liked message plus . i dont like the 3rd party message app im currently using . 98% of my phone use is text messaging . this has been such a annoyance that im seriously considering going in a different direction somehow , someway . i love my phone , kyocera brigadier, or at least i used to . but this has caused me to rethink my relationship with verizon after 5 calls to tech support after this update and nothing solved. (there are several annoyances im having with this last update ) but the biggest gripe is forcing me to change messaging apps due to one of the most ridiculous updates ive ever heard of . sound to text . wasnt that already an option ? so annoyed with verizon and this update . so thanks for everyone help but switching apps is not the solution but its all i can do . and i will never update my phone again .