http://support.google.com/voice/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1065667
Takes a trick or two is putting it lightly. Early termination fees, getting a new number from Verizon, forwarding the new number to google voice...getting a new plan with Verizon. Not for the ave... Ver más...
Takes a trick or two is putting it lightly. Early termination fees, getting a new number from Verizon, forwarding the new number to google voice...getting a new plan with Verizon. Not for the average user, and sounds like you should be out of plan to do it. plus I would probably loose my unlimited data grandfather. Awesome.
this is more along what I am talking about - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrust_Act
In your opinion, what is the easiest, most dumb proof program/way to skirt these charges that would reach the most people for free? AIM or Google Voice?
Its kinda tough to get everyone I know on that stuff. If they send me a message traditioanlly , I get cahrged.  Its a start though...
I hear ya, but this was brought before Congress not too long ago for Anti Trust/Collusion/Price Fixing. There is another side to this. Carriers raise these rates in lock step. Now with the right ... Ver más...
I hear ya, but this was brought before Congress not too long ago for Anti Trust/Collusion/Price Fixing. There is another side to this. Carriers raise these rates in lock step. Now with the right amount of money, any problem can go away. I am investing in Forever stamps and I am just going to send mail letters.
sadly, those aren't able to be used on my elder relatives or my friends with dumbphones. no way my mom can figure out any of those programs.
Why didn't I think of that? Your a genius.
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my string, I do mean that -even though I will get into some Cynicism as we go along here . Let's do some math, and maybe we can make some sense out o... Ver más...
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my string, I do mean that -even though I will get into some Cynicism as we go along here . Let's do some math, and maybe we can make some sense out of the numbers here that we are talking about. Ok, sooo - a text is 140 bytes (let's assume I use all characters). And let's use your example and  say I sent 25,000 texts in any given month. I would have transmitted the following.... 3,500,000 .......... bytes   or 3,417.96875 .... kilobytes  or 3.3378601074 megabytes    or 0.003259629  gigabytes  Now let's break that down against the data plans available right now - because after all, a text is data, right? I think we agree on that.... eveything is data, its a digital world --- 1 and 0's.  And those texts go through servers, just like data and voice, and yes they do have costs associated with the upkeep.  But I also think it's fair to say it's probably easier to route a 140byte text message, as opposed to a voice call or data stream.  Agree? Let's assume you have the 2 GB data plan for $30 plan that is out right now. That would come out to $15 Per GB, simple math, right? I would hope Verizon isn't losing money on this deal, I have to assume they are coving there costs. So let's assume Verizon is making a profit at $15 Per 1 GB. Here is where the math gets a little mind boggling, so stick with me.... $15 (Cost Per GB) / 0.003259 GB (25,000 texts) = $4,602.63 Per GB . So we effectively pay $4,602 per GB for Text and $15 per GB for data. Maybe the text servers are made of Solid Gold? Here's another intriguing way of looking at it. A 1 minute phone call takes up more data than 600 text messages. So in my case (I have a life), I text at the most 300 messages per month, the equivalent of a 30 second phone call. Now, I would argue very strongly that there is a lot more technology and it is much more difficult to transmit a real time voice conversation vs. a text message with no quality assurance. Yet another way to comprehend this… if I text 600 messages in a month (remember, the equivalent of a 1 minute phone calls worth of data) and I am not in a text plan, and I am charged $0.20 per text, which works out to be $120. Or if I have no life, and I text 25,000 messages (41 minute voice call) I would be charged $5,000. Not bad for 0.0032 GB. What a bargain. Those servers apparently are tough to maintain. Would you pay $120 for a one minute phone call?… sure you would, if your mom was on the moon! I do appreciate the Verizon answer, and that's what you should say of course, it sounds good when you read it, but let's really ask ourselves who we are kidding here. I gave you a concrete example of what we are talking about, these are the real numbers. I am a Microsoft Engineer, I have a background in Cisco routing and was a designer of Wide Area Networks for AT&T, I have a clue. And if Verizon had a clue about networking, which they do, they would prioritize the text message as being 3rd. 1st would be voice - you want a good clear conversation, 2nd would be data, and 3rd would be the text message (not crucial that it gets there a few milliseconds late). So the text gets the back seat on the data hihgway, but somehow gets charged at a the unbelievabley highest rate to deliver?? Some call it "market" and "what the market will bear", "the going rate", "cost of servers" etc… I see it another way - it's flat out USURIOUS, and is a display of the enormous market power that a few carriers wield when banded together. Thank you for taking the time to hear me out, nothing will be done about this and I realize that. We are bent over the barrel and we are taking our medicine like we should…. Now take into consideration the text is charged coming and going....mind blowing. Double my numbers above. You are now in Redonkulous land. ¡Bienvenido!
Fact is, everyone texts, everyone. It costs the Cell Phone company nothing to provide. If they billed data at the rates of texts, your bill would be tens of thousands of dollars for your Smartpho... Ver más...
Fact is, everyone texts, everyone. It costs the Cell Phone company nothing to provide. If they billed data at the rates of texts, your bill would be tens of thousands of dollars for your Smartphone - thats a fact. If you are going to line item a cost in a bill, it should be somewhere in the same realm of reaility as to what it actually costs the carrier. I cannot  just go to another Carrier, I live in a rural area and verizon happens to have a tower that gets me half a bar of service. I don't live in a very populated area.  Go elsewhere? You mean one of the other 3 carriers (oh so many to choose from, I can't keep track) that could very possibly fixing costs on this very topic? ever here about cost fixing? nahhh, that couldn't be
Does anyone else feel like $10 for 500 texts is usury? One minute of a voice call produces more data then 500 texts. Shouldn't we be charged by bandwidth usage? My understanding is that te... Ver más...
Does anyone else feel like $10 for 500 texts is usury? One minute of a voice call produces more data then 500 texts. Shouldn't we be charged by bandwidth usage? My understanding is that texts use no network traffic to send and receive. They are transmitted on a communication channel that is set aside for the phone to keep in touch with the tower. Is there a way to totally turn off texts on your phone? Check out this link to get an idea of how bad we are being ripped off. http://gthing.net/the-true-price-of-sms-messages I understand this is a way for them to make gobs of money without using the network, but it isn't right. Its just not right. Cell phones bills are so high already, do I really need to be charged $10 a month when I bought an UNLIMITED data plan for $30??? Isn't a text data????