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I tried this and it didn't work.
I just posted the results of the scan Ryan_VZW asked me to perform.  The only thing that looks wrong to me is on the last image where it says that WiFi is off.  WiFi was off at the time, but that... See more...
I just posted the results of the scan Ryan_VZW asked me to perform.  The only thing that looks wrong to me is on the last image where it says that WiFi is off.  WiFi was off at the time, but that's only because I couldn't turn it on.  When I tried turning it on the phone just behaved as if I hadn't done anything, or it shut down on me.  Both of those things happened right before I did the scan. In regard to the second part of your question, I am using 13.43 GB of 32 GB on my hard drive (7.9 GB "System" and 5.2 GB "Other Apps").
I'll do that today, and post back.  Thank you for your reply.
Did you get any help on your issue?  I haven't gotten any on mine, if you learned anything useful, I'd love to hear.  My problems are almost identical to yours.
Did either of you get any helpful feedback for your problems?  I posted about my issues yesterday (slightly different, but still 100% coincided with update) and haven't gotten any direct follow u... See more...
Did either of you get any helpful feedback for your problems?  I posted about my issues yesterday (slightly different, but still 100% coincided with update) and haven't gotten any direct follow up. I was reading last night about this (on my iPad, bc my phone is now a randomly-shutting-down, signal-blind brick).  There are rumors that VZW won't push out 8.1 to Moto Z because the 9.0 update will be pushing out in September/October.  I hope they don't make us wait until then to get a real fix.  That would definitely result in customer loss, so I'm hoping it's just a bad rumor.
This is crazy!  I started my post by expressing disappointment that VZW reps on these boards are blaming users' WiFi networks, and third party apps.  Despite that, I was still pulled into the "us... See more...
This is crazy!  I started my post by expressing disappointment that VZW reps on these boards are blaming users' WiFi networks, and third party apps.  Despite that, I was still pulled into the "user error" storyline by being first asked how long I tested the phone before I restored my data. I went ahead and reset my phone again because Danielle_VZW 's reply seemed to imply that by restoring data after my last factory reset, I somehow reintroduced these problems.  I'll have to take my own interpretation of her insinuation, since she never followed up with any concrete suggestions.  So, this is the second time I factory reset in three days.  This time, I factory reset, and did not restore any data (no apps, media, not even my contacts list).  I went through the initial set up, and let my phone sit for 4 1/2 hours (plugged into the charger), just in case there were any updates or background processes it needed time to complete.  I just unplugged my phone, and in the last 20 minutes I have lost my WiFi connection three times, the phone froze when I tried to do a soft shut down, and my phone has randomly shut down once.  At what point will VZW acknowledge that these issues were not caused by users' routers, poor battery conservation strategies, and third party apps? As I wrap up this post, I see the distinct blue light in my peripheral vision that tells me the phone has just shut down and is now on the Moto startup animation.  So that makes two random shut downs since I factory reset my phone for the second time in three days.  I have no pictures, contacts, or text message threads, and I hesitate to restore them lest I be blamed for my phone's issues.  @VZWSupport Please do something to address the issues people have been posting about, because I am not the only one in this boat.  We are paying way too much for a carrier that doesn't stand behind the updates it pushes out.
Hi Danielle, I'm not sure exactly how long I waited to restore data.  It was definitely the same night.  But since I keep getting the same shut down and connectivity issues in Safe Mode now, w... See more...
Hi Danielle, I'm not sure exactly how long I waited to restore data.  It was definitely the same night.  But since I keep getting the same shut down and connectivity issues in Safe Mode now, wouldn't that rule out the need to do another factory reset?  I'll do it if you really think that would help, but after one reset and still experiencing the issues in Safe Mode, I'm doubtful it would work. When I did the reset, all the data was intact, but there were only a handful of downloaded apps for which there were user data files, and I had all of those apps prior to the update.  In the past, I only ever had a couple minor adware issues, all of which had been rectified long before the update when all these problems started.  The lion's share of data I restored were photos I took. The phone didn't start powering off until after I had restored data after the reset.  But it started back with the WiFi connectivity issues almost immediately, so I figured the reset hadn't produced any positive results. The phone is not too hot to hold.  I was just making an observation that it's hotter to the touch than it was before these problems arose. I understand that these are the normal diagnostic processes, but if I experienced none of these problems for a year before the update, wouldn't it stand to reason that the update has caused these problems?  I'm getting the impression there might not be a real fix until the next patch, and it doesn't look like that's even in the works.  Anything you can do to help is much appreciated.
I have been reading the message boards regarding people's issues.  I'm frankly getting annoyed reading the responses, because they immediately assume the user's WiFi network is the problem, or th... See more...
I have been reading the message boards regarding people's issues.  I'm frankly getting annoyed reading the responses, because they immediately assume the user's WiFi network is the problem, or they blame it on third party apps.  First, Verizon needs to take accountability for the update they pushed out.  Almost everyone has multiple devices, and have been using WiFi for years.  We know the issues are not with our home/work networks, but yet you have us resetting routers and modems, and wondering whether it's the ISP's fault.  The second go-to culprit is third party apps.  This seems like a more reasonable suggestion, but if the problem were third party apps, wouldn't we have seen many of these issues before updates?  As you will see below, I have factory reset my phone, and operated in Safe Mode but the issues still persist. There is obviously an issue affecting a lot of users since the Oreo update(s). If you don't envision a real solution (like a patch), can you at least let us revert to the operating system of our choosing?  I never had problems with Nougat, and would gladly go back! This is incredibly frustrating, especially since I am still paying off my Moto Z Force, and I'll probably end up with data overage charges as a result!  For the record, before these recent issues, I loved everything about my phone and its operating system. I am running Android Version 8.0.0 (Oreo) My two most recent updates are as follows: March 15, 2018: NCLS26.118-23-13-6-5; June 21, 2018: OCLS27.76-69-4 My security patch level is listed as May 1, 2018 Since the June 21 update, these are the issues I have been experiencing: 1. WiFi Connectivity When I am on my home network, I can only stay connected for a few minutes at a time.  I lose the signal, even when I am sitting in the same room as the router.  When I try to reconnect, my phone will not be able to find any network (there are multiple within range of my house).  At that point, if I look up my MAC address, it will read: 02.00.00.00.00.00 and my IP address will read: Unavailable. The only way to remedy this issue is to restart the phone.  At this point, the phone will often freeze on the "Shutting Down" prompt, and I have to do a hard reboot OR the phone has just shut off on its own (see problem #3).  After the phone reboots, I can usually reconnect to WiFi for a few minutes (literally), until this process repeats. I know this is an issue with the phone because I never had issues before the most recent update, and all other devices in the home continue to connect normally.  I have reset my router and modem, but have had no change. 2. Phone Running Hot I have not seen major battery drain problems, but I have noticed that the phone runs hot.  It gets noticeably warm after only a few minutes of use.  This never happened before, and it happens even when I have my screen dimmed, very few background functions running, and the high accuracy location setting turned off. This continues to happen, even after I factory reset my phone, and regardless of whether or not I am in Safe Mode. 3. Phone Shuts Down This is the biggest concern.  It does not seem to occur when there is no WiFi network to connect to (though I can't be 100% sure if this is actually connected to the WiFi issue, or if it's just a coincidence).  The phone shuts down without any warning, as if I had performed a hard reboot.  This happens when I'm using the phone, and when it's just sitting on the table idle. It seems to happen more frequently at the end of the day, and when it begins (usually after about 6-7 hours of being on), it increases in frequency.  The last few nights, the phone shut down and restarted 4-5 times.  Like the other problems, this never happened before the update, and it continues to happen after I did a factory reset, and even in Safe Mode. 4. Difficulty Sending/Receiving Text Messages I am not sure if this was caused by the update, since I had this problem intermittently (but rarely) before the update.  When sending, the everything looks like a successful delivery on my end (including a timestamp), but the recipient will not get it.  When receiving, I am not sure whether the sender thinks they had a successful delivery, but I know I just don't get them. Things I Have Tried: -deleted any suspicious apps, on the advice of the representative from Tech Coach (I only had two that popped up as suspicious, according to the Anti Adware app, but one of them was AppFlash, which I couldn't delete because it is a Verizon app! The other was a flashlight app, and there was no suspicion of malware.) -Tech Coach rep did a battery diagnostic on my phone, and said there was no battery problem -did a factory reset (full disclosure, I did restore my backup data, but only after I saw that the reset did not fix the problem) -tried operating in Safe Mode (no effect, and all issues above continued) -deleted cache partition files (I did this in Recovery Mode, using instructions from the Verizon website, with no effect) -went to the Verizon store (the rep said he has heard of a lot of people having issues since recent Oreo updates, but couldn't really do much other than check my SIM card)