Are either of the devices ACTUALLY up & coming....still so sick of waiting and seeing all the rumors about the Incredible being in stores.....its kind of to the point where I've lost the excitement of ANY phone thats coming out until i see something on Verizon Wireless website, I know this is a customer forum but Verizon needs to know that they make us SOOO unhappy being so tight lipped about new products and WHAT the products would be, i mean all i want to hear again is that "THE HTC INCREDIBLE WILL BE COMING TO VERIZON EARLY APRIL 2010" or something....Ive almost lost complete interest in continuing to spend my money on a company who does not give their customers the products they want...