TwoTabs wrote: yes verizon doesnt make the update but its up to the "service provider" to determine when the update is released? i dont own a moto phone and will never own one. i was just trying to explain the proccess. i just went through this crap with my LG spectrum and all we got were lies lies lies by vzw

So if  the manufacturer doesn't submit an update... Then what?  How is Verizon could possibly give you any type of date?  Until the manufacturer submits something Verizon will NEVER know unless the manufacturer says "We will not be making an update for X device."

Right now Motorola has updated their update page shortly AFTER I posted that one.  Go have a look and see what it says from the manufacturers mouth.  The question remains when will they submit the update.