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@JOG0277 wrote:

https://www.techspot.com/products/smartphones/lg-v20.150649/

"seriously LG is junk before it gets any updates"

I'm not really sure what your problem is with LG Phones, but the The V20 is an AWESOME Phone.....Feel free to click on the above link and read the reviews.

If you're interested...LG also makes an Awsome Dual Screen Foldable Phone called the G8X Thin-Q.....Feel Free to Google the Reviews on that phone as well....

 

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The last truly good LG phone was the LG G3. Every phone since then has had significant issues.   Each one has shot high, and yet has fallen far short. The company's reputation has slipped substantially in all departments, including major appliances, which people are warned not to buy because they will not get warranty service in the United States.   Their mobile devices are getting maybe three or four updates per year, where is Samsung issues security updates almost every month. Aside from the software problems there have been a regular issues with hardware.

LG losses Continue, sales fall 

Your complaint about software updates ruining the phone might go away if you were using another brand.