stef7 wrote: I'm not sure it is true that LG is terrible about updates.

The LG V30 shipped with Nougat a month after Oreo was released.  Nearly five months later all the carrier variants are still on Nougat.

The Motorola Z2 Force was released a month before Oreo.  Guess which OS the Verizon model currently has? Hint: it starts with O.