Re: General Thought on Galaxy Nexus
droidsw
Specialist - Level 1

I suppose any new phone is going to have some room for improvement. The weak speaker and power button placement mentioned are on Samsung, not ICS.

There are many Android apologists that are being too upbeat, however. This is the first phone on ICS and this sounds like Thunderbolt, Bionic and Razr threads. What has changed with ICS? I ask sincerely, not sarcastically.

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Re: General Thought on Galaxy Nexus
fasteddy01
Newbie

So as not to reproduce my giant post from earlier, this is in reference to my post from 12-18-2011 04:43 AM and the great response from Tidbits to each of the issues I'm seeing.

 

1) I don't think its an app issue because I am using the email and text programs that come installed on the phone out of the box. If downloading and installing a 3rd party text and email program would solve this (instead of using the preinstalled or what I refer to as "stock" programs). If the stock text and email programs are not compatible with ICS, then there is definitely a problem.

 

2) I'll look around for where to turn this off b/c it's not in the text settings. I had a Fascinate for a year and I never experienced this issue. Also, you referred to this as an app issue again which I may be confused about. I don't consider the factory email and text programs to be "apps" though this may be the correct terminology for them. I consider these stock features.

 

3) I'm not sure what a skinned version is (remember, I'm just a normal user, I buy the phone and use what comes on it) but you said that the Samsung uses Touchwiz. The Samsung Fascinate definitely used a different text program or a completely different version than the Nexus does.

 

4) This was not an issue on the Fascinate. It did not blow them up to the point of distortion. All of my contact pics are identical to those I used on the Fascinate.

 

5) Will check into ADWLauncher, though I'm still not sure why they removed this extremely efficient feature from the homescreen.

 

6) Will look forward to the update. Hopefully this is not a hardware issue.

 

7)-9) Thanks for these responses. Will check into this.

 

To add a couple of other issues I left out in my original post.

 

10) While using the stock text messaging program, rotating the phone from vertical to horizontal can take up to a count of "four one thousand". This was never an issue on the Fascinate.

 

11) This should be helpful for those of you who are manually transferring pics/music to the phone's memory using copy and paste (since the SD card was scrapped). Your phone cannot enter "sleep" mode during the transfer from your PC or it will timeout the transfer. This was a major cause of frustration until I researched it on the web. To solve this, during the transfer, you need to either need to touch the screen periodically depending on your current screen sleep setting to keep the phone from entering sleep mode or temporarily change your screen timeout settings to a very long duration (i.e. 10 minutes).

 

As a side note, I agree with the poster who commented on the location of the power port. Should have kept it on top of the phone like the prior Samsung Fascinate. Even the side would be preferable to the bottom of the phone.

 

Like I said in my earlier post, happy with the phone and don't see the need to talk about the pros. Hopefully, some of these issues can be resolved. If you're a new owner like me, enjoy! That or you can hold out for the Blackberry NonExistent set to launch in 2015. :smileywink:

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Re: General Thought on Galaxy Nexus
curtterp
Specialist - Level 1

fasteddy01 wrote:

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3) I'm not sure what a skinned version is (remember, I'm just a normal user, I buy the phone and use what comes on it) but you said that the Samsung uses Touchwiz. The Samsung Fascinate definitely used a different text program or a completely different version than the Nexus does.

 

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Skins are the 'enhancements' that each manufacturer puts on top of Android. This is the reason why most Android phones take so long to get OS updates. The Nexus is pure Android. No Skins, no nothing between you and the OS. That is why everything looks so different.

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Re: General Thought on Galaxy Nexus
Tidbits
Legend

fasteddy01 wrote:

So as not to reproduce my giant post from earlier, this is in reference to my post from 12-18-2011 04:43 AM and the great response from Tidbits to each of the issues I'm seeing.

 

1) I don't think its an app issue because I am using the email and text programs that come installed on the phone out of the box. If downloading and installing a 3rd party text and email program would solve this (instead of using the preinstalled or what I refer to as "stock" programs). If the stock text and email programs are not compatible with ICS, then there is definitely a problem.

 I do not have the same problems with both Versions of the Galaxy Nexus.  This is a reason I believe it's an app you are using causing problems.  ICS is currently new and a lot of updating of apps doesn't always come out quickly enough to ensure compatibility.

2) I'll look around for where to turn this off b/c it's not in the text settings. I had a Fascinate for a year and I never experienced this issue. Also, you referred to this as an app issue again which I may be confused about. I don't consider the factory email and text programs to be "apps" though this may be the correct terminology for them. I consider these stock features.

 It's in the same location.  When I get back from work I will show you exactly where it is.  I will take screenshots with instructions.

3) I'm not sure what a skinned version is (remember, I'm just a normal user, I buy the phone and use what comes on it) but you said that the Samsung uses Touchwiz. The Samsung Fascinate definitely used a different text program or a completely different version than the Nexus does.

 Touchwiz is for MOST samsung devices.  Motoblur is for Motorola devices, and Sense is for HTC devices.  They are custom launchers like ADWLauncher made by manufacturers to make their "brand" stand out more.  People believe this is the cause of delays for updates.  Honestly I have talked about it before, and I still believe it's not the major cause of delays.  

4) This was not an issue on the Fascinate. It did not blow them up to the point of distortion. All of my contact pics are identical to those I used on the Fascinate.

 The size of the pictures required for Touchwiz is small.  Most of them don't need anything within 24x24 and the Nexus requires 60x60(if I remember correctly).  The better the picture quality the better they'll look.  I will take a screen shot to show you what I mean.  My cousin used a poor picture and it's all pixelated, but my wife's picture comes out clear as day.  It has nothing to do with the peoples app and more to do with the picture quality used by the person you are adding.

5) Will check into ADWLauncher, though I'm still not sure why they removed this extremely efficient feature from the homescreen.

 I only use 1 screen honestly and the rest I leave alone.  Regardless of which device I have :smileyhappy:

6) Will look forward to the update. Hopefully this is not a hardware issue.

 

7)-9) Thanks for these responses. Will check into this.

 

To add a couple of other issues I left out in my original post.

 

10) While using the stock text messaging program, rotating the phone from vertical to horizontal can take up to a count of "four one thousand". This was never an issue on the Fascinate.

 

11) This should be helpful for those of you who are manually transferring pics/music to the phone's memory using copy and paste (since the SD card was scrapped). Your phone cannot enter "sleep" mode during the transfer from your PC or it will timeout the transfer. This was a major cause of frustration until I researched it on the web. To solve this, during the transfer, you need to either need to touch the screen periodically depending on your current screen sleep setting to keep the phone from entering sleep mode or temporarily change your screen timeout settings to a very long duration (i.e. 10 minutes).

 Just turn debugging alone and set it to not allow sleep.  It's within the developers section.  This device original intention is to be a developers device first, and a consumer device second.  :smileyhappy:

As a side note, I agree with the poster who commented on the location of the power port. Should have kept it on top of the phone like the prior Samsung Fascinate. Even the side would be preferable to the bottom of the phone.

 They both should be on the bottom.  It keeps the cords from being in the way of the user.  When you put the device in your pocket more than likely you are going to put it top first.  This helps with that :smileyhappy:

Like I said in my earlier post, happy with the phone and don't see the need to talk about the pros. Hopefully, some of these issues can be resolved. If you're a new owner like me, enjoy! That or you can hold out for the Blackberry NonExistent set to launch in 2015. :smileywink:

I like it a lot for development reasons, but as a consumer device I'd rather use a Razr, or something else :smileyhappy:


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Re: General Thought on Galaxy Nexus
franklin270h
Newbie

The keyboard and general graphics issues are framework issues that are going to be addressed with 4.0.3 and are known. So yes, it's known the keyboard is laggy in landscape :smileywink:

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Re: General Thought on Galaxy Nexus
haysouse
Newbie

Amazon has the Razr at higher prices than the Galaxus.  Maybe people still want the Razr more?

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Re: General Thought on Galaxy Nexus
Tidbits
Legend
The main purpose of the Galaxy Nexus is to be a developers device. Consumers want more than what the Nexus has. The Galaxy Nexus is meant to be the bar that devices AFTER this version SHOULD be equal to or better than. In about a month the specs of all the devices out that will have ICS will be about 10-20% better than the Nexus.
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Re: General Thought on Galaxy Nexus
GreenRobot
Contributor - Level 3

haysouse wrote:

Amazon has the Razr at higher prices than the Galaxus.  Maybe people still want the Razr more...


Morons...
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Re: General Thought on Galaxy Nexus
curtterp
Specialist - Level 1

Tidbits wrote:
The main purpose of the Galaxy Nexus is to be a developers device. Consumers want more than what the Nexus has. The Galaxy Nexus is meant to be the bar that devices AFTER this version SHOULD be equal to or better than. In about a month the specs of all the devices out that will have ICS will be about 10-20% better than the Nexus.

You are correct. However, I wanted the Galaxy Nexus for pure Android with no skins. The Droid X was my first Android phone and I loved it. It has its quirks, but most of the quirks are because of Motorblur. The update lag is also because of Motorblur....

 

The camera is about the only spec that is lower than most phones. 5mp is good enough for me, if I want a picture to blow up and look nice, I will get my DSLR out :smileyvery-happy:

 

I am loving the Nexus.  Most of my programs work really well without ICS optimization. I found one paid program that I could not load from the market because it says it's not compatible, but it runs just fine. Not sure why they think it is not compatible, but maybe I will get an answer to my email  in the next few days.

 

Will there be a phone out in the next couple of months that will blow the Nexus away? You can bet on it. There is already talk of the Motorola Maxx hitting the Verizon Cellbrite system, and I am sure that other manufacturers will have other smartphones out in Q1 of 2012 with ICS. But they will all come with skins. Good luck with that :smileyvery-happy:.

 

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Re: General Thought on Galaxy Nexus
Tidbits
Legend
HTC Edge is also slated to come out soon. That one is supposed to make current phones a joke.
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