Re: Why, why, why is Verizon determined to drive me away by dropping all pretense of having any RUGGED basic phones?
Tidbits
Legend

Sprint hasn't grown... They've LOST customers consistently the past few years. Why do you think they were bought out recently?

Re: Why, why, why is Verizon determined to drive me away by dropping all pretense of having any RUGGED basic phones?
seasoned_geek
Enthusiast - Level 3

Sprint is growing and once again targetting customers in "the trades".

The losses they had were primarily due to shutdown of NexTel when a

primary network upgrade was not complete.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-r-levin/loyalty-helps-verizon-new_b_6068432.html

People who work in "the trades" and agriculture were a rugged phone is

pretty much a requirement is a significant market segment Verizon has

simply written off. It is also a segment NexTel used to serve.

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zellerandy
Specialist - Level 1


ok maybe verizon should follow what the huffingtonpost post think or maybe follow how sprint runs its cellphone company....

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Re: Why, why, why is Verizon determined to drive me away by dropping all pretense of having any RUGGED basic phones?
Ann154
Community Leader
Community Leader

Then Sprint has written off a good portion of the middle of the USA as Sprint doesn't cover most of the landmass for the Midwestern States.

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

Re: Why, why, why is Verizon determined to drive me away by dropping all pretense of having any RUGGED basic phones?
seasoned_geek
Enthusiast - Level 3

Which is why I had to go to Verizon when I left ATT because ATT could

not turn off texting and could not stop customer service from texting me

at 2:30am when automatic payments went through. I have not dug into

their massive coverage gap problem though. They keep talking about how

they have been expanding coverage, but, I don't see major changes to

their map. I do know that some of the midwest coverage issues are due

to the local phone systems. Some number of years ago Verizon signed a

contract to build a cell tower in the town of Cabery, IL. just yards

from the land line phone switch. Nothing has happened. The land line

switch owned/maintained by Frontier is so old it does not support fiber

channel. No fiber, no tower. The maps for both ATT and Verizon claim

good coverage for this area. In reality there are quite a few dropped

call dead spots.

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Re: Why, why, why is Verizon determined to drive me away by dropping all pretense of having any RUGGED basic phones?
Tidbits
Legend

No Sprint has continueto lose customers long before Sprint closed Nextel. They didn't shut down Nextel until they were purchased by Softbank. Don't look at 6 months with gimmick plans and lock ins in the near future their numbers will go down when contracts and payment plans expire. Just like T-Mobile will happen to as they won't be able to expand their network fast enough to lose a lot of these customers.

Yes I am a T-Mobile, ex Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon customers.

Re: Why, why, why is Verizon determined to drive me away by dropping all pretense of having any RUGGED basic phones?
seasoned_geek
Enthusiast - Level 3

T-Mobile doesn't have a network. Probably never will. Time will tell,

but, from what I'm seeing, a lot of companies which are in heavy

construction are switching to Sprint to get durable phones. The service

may suck but the phone will last more than a week.

Here's a hint to Verizon's upper management. If a phone really is

military grade, there should never ever be "refurbished" (now called

crtified pre-owned) versions for sale. When real military grade phones

fail they are completely beyond repair.

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zellerandy
Specialist - Level 1


Verizon does not manufactopr the phone.  If a phone is being claimed as "millitary grade" it is because that is what the manufactor is claiming.  You confusing cell phone production with cell phone service

Re: Why, why, why is Verizon determined to drive me away by dropping all pretense of having any RUGGED basic phones?
Ann154
Community Leader
Community Leader

The refurbished/certified-pre-owned phones are more likely returned phones aka open box items.

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

Re: Why, why, why is Verizon determined to drive me away by dropping all pretense of having any RUGGED basic phones?
Tidbits
Legend

What good is a phone if it doesn't get service. Sorry we do a lot of field work and we don't take phones that get no service. Where I often work at regardless the phone if it is lost it is lost. Dropping regardless if rugged or not means you'll never get it back unless you are willing to risk your life for a phone.

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